JC: You wrote about sacred spaces in your graduate thesis when you studied at Waseda University. Can you tell me about it?
MN: My father had built a wooden church in Karuizawa when he was at the Raymond office, and designed another reinforced concrete one in Kyoto when I was in graduate school which became my responsibility to oversee. Tange Kenzo’s Cathedral and Olympic buildings were under construction, so It seemed a natural thing to write about what makes Sacred Spaces sacred.
JC: George learned spirituality while he was in India. I heard you were named after an Indian spiritual leader
MN: India was a mystery to me until my second husband and I went there after my father’s death. I couldn’t figure out how Dad could follow Sri Aurobindo and be a Catholic, but as Aurobindo practiced the integral Yoga, there was no conflict between any of the religions.
JC: George described himself as a Hindu Catholic Shaker Japanese American. When did George become Catholic and why?
MN: When Dad was first starting out in Seattle, he had no real workshop excepting that loaned to him by the Catholic Maryknoll Missionaries in Seattle. Father Leopold Tibesar was ministering to the Japanese American community, continued to do so when they were incarcerated, and commissioned one of Dad’s first projects in Karuizawa, later in Kyoto, and baptized Dad with no instruction. Dad always considered himself catholic with a small “c” and felt no boundaries between that and other religions.
JC: Are you Catholic as well?
MN: Yes, but I was not baptized until I was about 13.
JC: Sakura Seisakujo is only one entity who can create Nakashima furniture outside your company. How did it happen? How do you work with them?
MN: In 1964, the sculptor Masayuki Nagare (1923-2018) built his “Stone Crazy” wall for the World’s Fair in New York. Dad invited him and his stonemasons to come to New Hope for steak dinner, which they did, and invited my father to visit them in Takamatsu some day.
As I was attending Waseda at the time, Dad came to visit me and took me to Takamatsu to meet Nagare, the stone masons and the Minguren group of artisans who were trying to preserve the old craft traditions by adapting them to modern design. They invited Dad to do a show made in Takamatsu and exhibited in Tokyo, and it was so successful they kept inviting him back to do more shows. During the process, Dad became very fond of the Japanese woodworkers particularly at Sakura Seisakusho, enjoyed producing shows there, and became good friends with the Nagami family. I first went there in 1988 because Dad was too busy preparing his retrospective show at the American Craft Museum, and was surprised that they treated me as if I were my father! We too have been friends ever since and we have been working with the next generations at Sakura. We did a show for them last November.
JC: Who are you major influences from Japanese culture?
MN: My aunt Milly Johnstone was one of my father’s first sponsors, had danced with Martha Graham on Isamu Noguchi’s sets, and fell in love with the Japanese aesthetic. She took me on my first trip to Japan, where we learned a lot about Zen Buddhism, poetry, painting, tea ceremony and architecture.
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